I wrote a lot about Episode #1 of Livin’ With Steve a few weeks ago, now onward to the second instalment of this smash hit Livin’ With Steve franchise. This week I’ll be talking about the second episode Bakin’ With Steve. This is actually one of my favourite episodes, I like the simple story and visually I think it is one of the more appealing episodes. It’s not without it’s problems though, which I will go into soon. First I’ll talk about where the idea came from.
When we finished making the Livin’ With Steve pilot episode, we put together a 13 episode series bible in a very short amount of time. I wont go into the specifics for why this happened, but the series bible took all night to put together and we had to pitch as many ideas for episodes as we possibly could in a short amount of time. The conversations would literally go like this.
JONNY: “Ummm, what if Nate gets a pet flamingo.”
LEVI: “Nah.”
JONNY: “What if Nate throws a bake sale?”
LEVI: “BRILLIANT!”
That is how the premise of this episode came into being. It wasn’t until I saw Sweeny Todd when the idea for this episode was really developed properly.
The Plot
I thought Nate unwittingly grinding people up and serving them as pies was a funny idea. I still do. Here is where I think we went wrong with the episode, and in some ways with many elements of the series. At its core Livin’ With Steve is a very dark idea. The whole point of the show is that it starts off light hearted and fun and then, as each episode progresses, we reveal Nate obliviousness is a scary fabrication he has invented to cope with his depressing reality. We show that there is a screw loose in Nate and we slowly uncover the depths of his insanity. In my opinion, Livin’ With Steve never really pulled off the darkness it was supposed to. What really would have made this episode is more disgusting shots of Nate cutting people up and making them into pies, pushing corpses through a meat grinder, stirring a big disgusting pot of human remains (this one sort of made it in). All while thinking (impossibly) that he is having a lovely bake sale with his best bud. Each episode should have had that childlike innocence mixed with a horrible darkness beneath it.
The idea that the pies were infected was another idea I thought of. This was more of an idea to forward the plot of the episode and the whole series. The story of season #1 was always meant to have the zombie virus spreading through town. I wanted it to be Nate’s fault that it happened though. His obliviousness completely destroys the life of those around him and has almost no consequences to his own life. This episode very nearly achieved this. This is another episode where I underestimated how confusing the plot idea is. Often when we were writing episodes I insisted that each plot had to have something slight askew about it. It’s not a tired old plot device (like a bake sale). It has a twist on it. Almost like it is making fun of those contrived sitcom type stories. However, to make that apparent in this episode you have to establish several premises.
1. Nate has a bake sale.
2. Steve kills someone,
3. Nate makes that person into pie meat,
4. Nate feeds the infected pies to customers,
5. The customers become zombies,
6. The zombie customers crave human flesh,
7. Nate is making pies that are made from human flesh.
8. Nate has to find more human flesh to feed the zombies so they don’t eat him (and Steve).
THAT is what this episode should have been. It has to take a series of steps to go from the boring premise of ‘Bake Sale’ to the dark premise of ‘Nate finding human flesh to feed to a horde of zombies.’ The problem is there are too many steps between these two premises to cover in our run time of 2 minutes (I know, I know, I said I wouldn’t blame the run time). Instead, the episode is like this
1. Nate has a bake sale.
2. Steve kills someone,
3. Nate makes that person into pie meat,
4. Nate feeds the infected pies to customers,
5. The customers become zombies,
6. The zombie customers crave human flesh,
7. Nate runs out of meat.
It never reaches that level of darkness that we should have pushed for. In retrospect the episode should have gone like this:
1. Nate has a bake sale.
2. Steve somehow infects the pie batch.
3. Nate feeds the infected pies to customers,
4. The customers become zombies,
5. The Zombie customers starting maiming and killing people in front of Nate.
6. Nate is makes pies that are made from human flesh to keeps the zombies happy.
7. Nate has to find more human flesh, doesn’t bother with pies anymore, to feed the zombies so they don’t eat him (and Steve).
Ta-da! We have a transformed the premise completely. Actually, I’m still not convinced the run time of each episode allows us to establish bait and switches of each episodes premise. We tried to cover as much of the plot as we could in the pie making montage, which was sort of effective. We would still have to have a resolution to the premise. This episode would have been great with a 5 minute run time.
Now what was I talking about before this complicated tangent? Oh yes where the episode idea came from. The whole episode plot was formed so I could include one joke that eventually got cut. It went something like this;
NATE: “Wow Steve! We’re selling pies with a mysterious meat in order to pay our rent; this is just like that popular musical!”
STEVE: [GROANS]
NATE: “Yeah, it’s exactly like R.E.N.T”
Not the best joke. It got cut for a good reason.
Let’s talk about this episodes place in the arc of Livin’ With Steve. Last time I talked about the arc of the series and how the threat was that Nate and Steve would be evicted from their home. This is the episode that really sets that up as a possibility, when we introduce their angry landlord Mr Rhodes. Mr Rhodes was originally a once of character written for the episode that became Kitten Sittin’ With Steve (which I will cover in 2 weeks). On top of having a stand alone plot to the episode, this episode introduced the idea that Nate and Steve can’t afford to pay their rent and their landlord would be only too happy to evict them. This was supposed to be a running problem in the series. The reason Nate and Steve take jobs Acting, Cat Sitting, Burger Making is to pay their rent, but I don’t think this is very obvious. I heard and interview with Tim Hideker and Eric Wareheim (who would go on to make Tim and Eric: Awesome Show, Great Job! and Tim and Eric’s Billion Dollar Movie) and Bob Odenkirk (of Mr. Show) on the A Special Thing Podcast where they all spoke about the production of a show called Tom Goes to the Mayor.
Bob Odenkirk: “When we started this [Tom Goes to the Mayor] I argued with you guys a couple of times about how you kinda have to do the same thing in every episode, because you right away wanted to trash the format. Which is Tom goes to the Mayor and suggests something. But I think in this new season you found an amazing mix of sticking to that format enough that it’s a show, that it has this form. And then these episodes that either start there and veer off, or don’t start there and it doesn’t feel like they overwhelm or that you drop your template for the show.”
Eric Wareheim: “I think we started to embrace the idea of, coming back to that, the simple idea that Tom goes to the Mayor. … We started to really appreciate what that little moment is every single time.”
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Bob Odenkirk: “David and I, when we started Mr Show, we didn’t come out and say hello, and we didn’t want to do it! Burnie Billstein, my manager, said “You have to do it. You have to do one thing at the top of the show that’s the same.” Python had the It’s Guy. Because otherwise every week it is just Craziness and you don’t know where it starts or ends.”
Excerpt from The ‘AST Radio’ Podcast,
Episode: ‘Bob Odenkirk, Tim and Eric’
Uploaded: Fri, 2 June 2006
If we made all 13 episodes, we had many other plots (We had to cut one where Nate and Steve start a Death Metal Band with Steve as the lead singer) that reinforced the idea that they need money. Because there are only 4 ‘job episodes’ in a 7 episode series, the ‘let’s make money to pay the rent’ premise never seems constant. Really this is one of the biggest problems I have with the narrative of the whole series. It doesn’t feel like there is consistency or a running plot because we tried to do both.
I often wonder if this season would have been better without a running arc, if each episode could just stand on it’s own legs as something people can enjoy. I’m reminded of another series that was made along side ours entitled Mollusks: The Animated Series. It’s a very well written series and what makes it so effective is that there is only one plot. It’s like a short film that happens to be cut into episodes. Shaaark! has a different approach where there is no series arc (except for the love interest introduced in the first episode) but it has the consistent premise established in the introduction “A Shark, named Jacques, pronounced Shar, determined to inspire his fellow apex predators, to ride above their instincts and become more than mindless killing machines”. In Livin’ With Steve we tried to do both but the consistency is never established because nearly every episode starts off in a completely new setting.
Trivia and References
Australian viewers may recognise the pie customer’s likeness to Matt Preston, one of the judges from the Australian Master Chef. We actually had the real Matt Preston lined up to voice himself which sadly never came into fruition due to his busy schedule and our tight deadline.
Viewers of Australian Master Chef might notice the quick reference to a famous incident that happened on the television series. I love this moment in television. I could write a whole post about it. I will just say it’s the exact moment that everybody realised the loose definition of ‘Reality’ in Reality TV. It’s hilarious. If Livin’ With Steve is proof of anything it’s that I love corny jokes, and this is the corniest thing that has ever happened.
This episode could really just serve as a big set up to Episode #4. Because Mr. Rhodes is an angry old man sort of character we thought it would be funny if he is desperately attached to his cat. Then we thought it would be even funnier if he collects cat things the way an old lady would. Then we pushed it further and decided that it would be funnier if he was a closeted gay man but it never really comes up in the story. It’s just a little fact about his character which the audience can pick up on or ask questions about. He lives his own bizarre life; the only thing we get ever know about it is what Nate and Steve see. Thinking about it now, I think what I found so appealing about this idea is that it ties into Nate’s obliviousness. His landlord is a bit strange and Nate could probably ask a lot of questions about his lifestyle but he really just doesn’t care. I’ll talk more about Mr. Rhodes in Episode #4. My point is that we crammed as much cat stuff Mr. Rhodes shots as we possibly could.

Note Mr. Rhodes cat telephone and the picture on the wall behind him. We has an idea that instead of getting married, Mr. Rhodes consideres himself married to his cat.
Finally there is the song ‘Sexy Disco Woman’ composed by Cam Blokland, who did almost all of the music for Livin’ With Steve. I asked him to write the most flamboyant funk/disco song he possibly could. He said he knew what I wanted nearly right away, made this song and I loved it. I want to release the full 2 minute version online one day. I liked it so much I had to put it in the outro credits. Another fun fact about Mr. Rhodes is that he is named after the character of the same name in George A. Romero’s Day of the Dead.
The photo montage was also a reference to the original Dawn of the Dead soundtrack. Romero uses a track entiteld ‘The Gonk’ which we gave to Cam to try and make a sound-a-like for. It’s a very subtle reference that nobody will ever pick up on.
That really all I want to say about this episode. I know it sounds like I’m shitting all over my own work when I look at these. I’m very proud of them and this really is one of my favourites. I feel like the only way to improve is to be as critical as possible of your own work. In the future I am going to try and write one of these BEFORE I write the script.
Anyway. I’ll write up Episode #3 (another favourite of mine) next week.




















